This is great for my poor form flick, will always come back but glidey and long. Backhand it will also be my stable distance driver, great feel and great wind disc.

Defender is a high speed, very overstable disc. If that's what you want, that's what you get! You need a strong arm to get this one to fly. The numbers listed are accurate. I've had a couple in Lucid (173 and 168), and one in Hybrid plastic. The Lucid is a little more overstable than the Hybrid.
For me, I can flick the Lucid as hard as I want, and they will stay straight for a while, with a strong, hard fade at the end; no turn at all. The hybrid will give just a little flex on a full flick before it fades back strong.
Defender is not a complete meat hook like some others (Nuke OS, for example), but has a strong, reliable fade.

The Defender is a solidly made 13-speed driver with a noticeably flat flight plate. The plastic has a good feel, nicely balancing soft touch and durability. For my arm speed, there's a predictable fade that can be somewhat counteracted with an anhyzer release at high velocity. For the price, I'm quite happy with this disc. It will be a staple in my arsenal going forward.

I was looking for a distance driver that could stand up to winds and this is it. I've got a max driving distance of about 385 feet on flat ground, this is not the longest driver in my bag but it's really predictable, good glide and will never flip on you. Perfect for those windy shots you need to go left (RHBH) and far. Hard finish and a good skip, and a good choice for forehand rips too.